I'm Not Sorry: Violence Against Women, the Manosphere, and Why So Many of Us Are Done

This transcript has been lightly edited for readability. Filler words and false starts were removed. Content note: this episode discusses sexual violence, intimate partner violence, murder, harm to children, and suicide.

COLD OPEN

A while back, a question went around the internet. Simple little hypothetical, okay? What would you do if you were the last woman on Earth? And I watched woman after woman answer it. Women who had never even met each other, some of them in different countries, different ages, different lives entirely, and the answers all had the same shape. Not finally some peace and quiet. Not I'd run for president totally unopposed. Over and over, the answer was the same version of, "I would make sure I wasn't around for what came next."

And men lost their goddamn minds. The comments filled up with men who'd crack the case on it. See, this is why women can't lead. They don't value human life. Imagine being handed the extinction of a species as a sort of thought experiment. And then the part that offends you is that the woman didn't volunteer because those women weren't being dramatic. They were doing the fucking math. They looked at history. They looked at the data and they answered the question honestly. When the floor falls out of society, women get raped.

There's war, famine, earthquakes, hurricanes, economic collapse, different continents, different centuries. Same result throughout history. Rwanda 1994. The genocide lasted about a 100 days and the estimates of women raped run from 250,000 to half a million. Germany, World War II, 1945. Historians estimate around 2 million women raped by occupying soldiers. Hurricane Katrina. Among women displaced into trailer parks in Mississippi, the rate of gender-based violence more than tripled. And 2 years later after Katrina, it still hadn't gone back down. And that's with millions of us to go around.

Now make it one singular woman. So no, no one gets to lecture me about my reverence for human life. Especially not some asshole with a Punisher skull avatar and a podcast mic that he probably bought with his stimulus check. And I know exactly what I revere. I've done the research. I've been doing true crime for a hot minute. I don't have to speculate about what would happen to me because men have already showed me repeatedly. If you are a regular listener to this podcast, you have tuned in for that.

All right? They've shown us in court transcripts, in casualty counts, in comment sections on a daily freaking basis. This episode is about why I'm so fucking tired. I am bone tired, y'all. Tired in a way that I can't even sleep my way out of. And why so many women I know are starting to say it out loud that they hate men. Why I'm starting to say it, too. And also why I'm not sorry. Because if you cover true crime long enough, like really cover it, dig down into it, not as entertainment, not as content, but as a record of what keeps happening to women, eventually the cases stop looking like little isolated horrors, and they start looking like a pattern.

I'm Robin. This is We Saw the Devil. Let's get into it.

HOUSEKEEPING

Happy Monday everyone. I hope you're all having a wonderful start to your week thus far. I'm not gonna ramble too long here, okay? Because this is going to be a long episode. Fair warning right now. I for whatever reason just reached my fucking limit this week. Like over the weekend, I reached my limit. Just the constant news, everything happening on the world. I think it's kind of the culmination of all of the true crime I've done over the last what, like 10 years, 8 years at this point.

I reached my limit. All right. So, we're going to talk about that and I'm going to talk about a variety of things. There are going there's going to be a lot covered in this particular episode. And I'm going to be completely honest with you. I am going to piss someone off, like everyone off at some point. All right, this I actually sat and I weighed this. Do I really want to do this episode? Do I really potentially want to destroy my podcast?

And the answer was a resounding absolutely. So, here I am. Now, housekeeping super fast because again, I have a lot of yelling scheduled for today. Next episode is going to be a Matthew Farwell update that is going to be coming on Wednesday. Also, this week, the second Mica Miller episode is going to be dropping. It's already been recorded. I need to put it out. I'm a loser. I know. Sorry about that. But the Matthew Farwell case is still active. It is ongoing.

I've been reading the notes and catching up with that. So, it's all coming. Okay. And then, Patreon patrons, love you guys so freaking much. I promise I have content coming for you as well. I have been busy for the last two weeks unfortunately not have not had an incredible amount of time. Also started a new job. So my time has been very very very very very limited and this is going to kind of be an I like to try to write podcast scripts out ahead of time, right?

So I at least have some notes and stuff. Occasionally I'll just write some literal notes, right? Just dash note dash note. And that's what I'm going off of here. Okay, so apologies if this is a little bit rough. I'm just so angry. All right, so housekeeping. If you enjoy what I'm saying, if you if you've been enjoying the show, if you enjoy my approach to true crime and true crime content, please follow. It would literally mean the world to me. For those of you who are unaware, I was I started true crime with the Lori Vallow case.

I was the first podcast to actually cover that. And so I went from completely unknown to one of the bigger podcasts like in the you know independent podcasts because of the Lori Vallow coverage and then I got burned out. I took a break for a little bit like a couple years actually and then I came back. I started with politics and because I just found that true crime didn't really say a whole lot, right? It's a lot of breathy narration going over, you know, stories.

And I understand that some people like that and that is absolutely no, you know, no commentary on you, your taste or whatever. Okay? It's just not for me. If I'm going to be spending my time doing this, I want to feel like I'm actually accomplishing something and talking about things that are important to myself. So came back, I did started with politics and then realized that I can actually talk about true crime in relation to a lot of the issues, social and political issues that I particularly, you know, personally care about and think that issues that I think impact all of us, particularly women.

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INTRODUCTION

And I want to start with what happened literally 10 minutes before I hit record for this episode. Now, I don't know how many of you post. He's a huge influencer. His name is TizzyEnt, like entertainment, right? Tizzy. T-I-Z-Z-Y-E-N-T. He's huge on TikTok. And if you don't know him, he's a creator who uses his platform to put names to faces to people, mostly men, who do vile things in public, right? So, they just basically can't go quietly back into their lives. Major respect.

In the video he posted right before I sat down to record this episode. Right, this episode is predicated on violence against women. Now, this particular video was out of Homestead, Florida. And in this video, there's a woman driving on the highway and she's filming the truck next to her. And the man driving that truck, again, on the highway at speed is masturbating, and he is just going to town, tugging one out. And every single time she tries to get away from him, he speeds back up.

He'll go around cars, he's swerving in and out of traffic to pull alongside her again so he can stare at her while he does it. As she's videoing him, she's in a car, y'all. She can't leave. She can't open her door and pop out. And he knows she can't leave. That's the entire point of it. That was my fucking pre-show warm-up here this evening. Okay. Like that's the ambient temperature of being a woman in 2026. You can't even get to the content of the episode about the thing because the thing keeps happening while you're trying to make the thing.

All right. So again, disclaimers out of the way because I know exactly who is going to clip the title of this episode and run to some sort of manosphere group chat with it. Yes, I'm a gay. All right. I've dated my fair share of absolute shitbirds who are also women. My last two exes were absolutely fucking abhorrent. Women are not always innocent. Women abuse people. Women lie. Women hurt children. And I've covered a handful of them on this show in a true crime context.

And I absolutely will be covering more because they can also be monsters. All right. So before anyone's like, "Man hating lesbian, I've dated men. I've dated women. I'm now married to a woman." No. Women are not necessarily angels just from being born. All right. Now, and since I'm already going to get yelled at, let me tell you exactly where I'm standing. Okay? I'm far left. Not I liked a birdie post once left. I'm far left. I'm a feminist. I don't put an asterisk on it.

I've spent my entire adult life on the side of the people getting stepped on. So, when I tell you that I am exhausted, okay? It's not because I switched teams. It's because I've been on this team for decades. I've been watching all of this shit and we are getting our asses kicked right now. All right. I also want to be completely forthright and very strongly and very strongly say that this episode is not misandress. All right. I'm not saying men are bad or men are evil.

I'm not saying that your brother is a monster or your father or your sweet little grandpa. All right? I'm saying something more boring. Okay? Which is when you add up the imbalance of power in our society or world really, the physical differences between most men and women and the sheer volume of what men do to women, it becomes a lot. And in 2026, it's become for a lot of us absolutely fucking unbearable. And here's how I'd like to break this down.

All right. Some men are actively engaging in misogyny. Some men are completely silent about it. And there is a number of men who are actively trying to fight it with us. And that last group, God love them. God love you. Okay. But unfortunately, that group is not big enough to carry the other two. So women carry it. We carry the emotional labor. We carry the sexual labor. We carry the domestic labor. We walk into work environments where we have to work 10 times as hard to be considered half as competent.

And every single woman I know, and I mean every single one, has either gone on a date with a man who told her to her face that, you know, some sort of semblance of women aren't smart enough to be president or to lead or to be a CEO or something like that or, you know, we all know someone who has. And then when we finally say, "Lord, I'm tired." We get told that we are the problem, that we're too emotional, that we're too sensitive, we complain.

We are not the problem. And I'm tired of being reasonable. All right? I'm tired of the tone check. I'm tired of opening every single sentence about men hurting women with disclaimers about how not all of them do, so one guy in the comment section doesn't get his little feefees hurt. I'm tired of everything. And I mean every fucking thing being centered around men, their feelings, their loneliness, their reputations, their futures, their careers that might get ruined. I am tired of being the one who has to be calm about it.

Right? I've been calm my whole damn life. Right? And calm, as you'll come to learn here shortly in the episode, got us got us over here in the United States 31st place. And you'll learn what scale, like what list I'm talking about here momentarily. All right? And do you know what it costs just to exist out there every single day? Keys between your fingers in the parking lot, location sharing, you know, on with your friends, photo in the license plate before you get in the Uber, fake wedding ring at the bar just to go drink.

Drink covers. Hand over the drink anyway. The call me in 20 minutes with an emergency plan before you go on your first date out of, you know, wondering what is showing up. Checking the back seat when you get into your car. Checking the closet in the hotel room. Picking the gym time based on which men are there after you learn the schedule. But can't be too late because you can't go out into the parking lot by yourself. Wearing headphones, right? With nothing playing on them.

So men leave you alone but not loud enough so you can't hear footsteps coming up behind you. That's a second job, you guys. And obviously it's unpaid with no benefits, no vacation. You know, we all clocked into this job at about 12 fucking years old and we will clock out when we die. And men don't even know the job exists. And again to that like chef's kiss like you know like little like kiss there to the men in that last group that I mentioned who are aware and are cognizant that this kind of thing exists, right?

But a lot of men just think that we're we're just like this. We we apparently find it fun and funny and entertaining being jumpy and dramatic and cold. No, Kevin, we are on shift. All right. Before I get into it though, I want to just, you know, state it out for the record that I feel like I've [snorts] always felt personally I'm just going to be completely real and honest with all of you. I have felt largely like an outcast my entire life.

All right? My interests are very much aligned with male interests. All right? I love video games. I love UFC. I love sports. I love football. I love out, you know, testing different liquors and stuff like that. And I've found the music that I listen to is very much more male like more men gravitate to the music I listen to as well. All right. Most of my friends throughout my life have been men. Yes, I've met some bad ones, but I have met some absolutely amazing people 30 years ago that I'm still friends with today.

All right. Great men. And so I find that I'm particularly in this like weird place, right, of being gay, of going through, we'll get into it and you know, in the episode I have some various points to make throughout the episode, but I'm in this like weird position of where I'm like, all my friends are men. I have men that I absolutely freaking love. But then sitting back, right, and looking and examining society and looking at everything that happens and unfortunately doing a true crime podcast where you're always going through court documents and statistics and safety stuff and all of it, you guys get my drift.

Constantly being exposed to the actual numbers and the data of this shit right? It's so hard to reconcile sometimes. It's just so hard to reconcile sometimes. Now, I'm also 5 foot 10. All right. Well, 510 and a half if we're being, you know, truthful. But I've never really been scared. Okay. So, before some man or my all-time favorite is when it's a woman. I'm not scared. I don't do that. I just go about my business and I never have any problems.

Well, good for you, Tina. Me either. Me either. You know, being a tall woman, like played sports my entire life, like I'm not scared either. I go out and my rule of thumb is if I die, I die. You know, I'll be as careful as I can, but if I die, I die. Whatever happens happens. But I'm so tired of the picnichas on our side as well. And like I said in the very beginning, I'm going to piss someone off with this episode.

All right? And it's probably going to be you at some point. I'm going to hold your hand while I tell you this. I love you. I'm sorry. You know, and if it makes you hate me forever, then I guess that is unfortunate consequence. But we have to talk about the data. Okay? And we are in this very very weird here in October 26, 2026 year of whatever the fuck We have to talk about society right now. It is an insane time.

All right?

PART ONE: THE NUMBERS

And I want to start with the numbers. And let's start with scale, okay? Because people keep talking about, you know, violence against women. They keep talking about it like it's this just magical topic that everybody gets brought, you know, everybody brings up like it's a feeling that women have. It's not a feeling, you guys. It is an actual legitimate data set. All right. In September, just last month, researchers at Tulane's Newcomb Institute and also UC San Diego, they released what they're calling the very first comprehensive national survey of its kind on violence in this country.

And they actually did it in a smarter way than most crime statistics. They asked people directly because most of the numbers that you've heard only count when it got reported to police. And if you are a frequent follower of true crime especially or just general news, you know, you know how little actually gets reported in the first place. All right? And I'm going to touch more on that in a minute. But in any case, this study, they surveyed 2,720 adults. 61% of women said they'd experienced intimate partner violence in their lifetime.

That's 6 and 10. And yeah, 45% of men said the same. All right, the survey counts things like controlling and coercive behavior, not just fists. Men do get abused. Let me say that again for those in the back before you know someone with a twirly mustache comes out and is like, yes, men get abused. Okay, some of them are abused by women. Some of them are abused by other men. I am not hiding that number. You can go ahead and write that down.

All right, 45% of men in the study said that they experienced intimate partner violence. Now, look at the next number. All right, 19% of women, almost one in five, reported what the researchers call potentially lethal intimate partner violence. What that entails is extreme beatings, burnings, strangulation, and violence with a knife or gun. For men, that number was 3%. 19 versus three. Okay, that's the distance between my partner is controlling and my partner might actually kill me. In that distance between those two numbers is where this entire episode that I'm doing, you know, tonight is living.

Okay. This morning, the Washington Post ran an op-ed by Michele Decker. She's originally out of the Hill and she laid out the federal numbers here. Okay. The CDC estimates that more than one in three women experience violence or stalking from an intimate partner in her lifetime. Nearly half of all women experience sexual violence. And that's based on what's reported. Again, based on what is actively reported. Less than a quarter of sexual violence incidents were reported to police in 2024. So you do the math y'all.

If almost 50% of women have experienced sexual violence, 50% that's reported and less than a quarter of sexual violence incidents were reported. What the fuck And her argument, okay, and I agree with it completely, is that we keep describing this violence as random and unpredictable. It's a tragedy. He was an undercover monster. It came as a shock and that particular framing breeds tolerance, right? Because if it's random, no one's responsible for preventing it. Who if it's random, it's unforeseen. Okay? And her point is that it's actually the opposite.

It is patterned. It is predictable. And because it is predictable, it can be preventable. We have just chosen as a society to not do shit about it. We ring our hands. We light a candle. We pray. We do a hashtag. You know, we wrap a purple ribbon around something in October for domestic violence awareness month. And then November 1st, we go right back to not giving a shit or hearing about it until the following October. And then when you zoom out to the planet, the World Health Organization and the UN women put it at roughly one in three women worldwide experiencing physical or sexual violence in their lifetime.

Mostly from a partner. In Sudan, according to the again, UN women, three years into that war, the number of women and girls who need specialized sexual violence support has quadrupled. And I know people are like, "Well, I don't care about them. I just want to hear about the United States." Well, let me break that out for you, too. Okay. Georgetown University, their Institute for Women Peace and Security puts out an index that ranks 181 countries on women's well-being that includes inclusion, justice, security.

There are 13 different indicators. Can you guess who number one is? Denmark. Guess who's last? Probably unsurprisingly, Afghanistan. Do you know where the United States is? 31st. And that's the good news. All right? Because we actually used to be 37th. We moved up six spots and we're still sitting behind Portugal at 26, the UK at 23 and the and the UAE again, the United Arab Emirates at 20. The UAE is ranked ahead of us on women. What the fuck are we doing?

Georgetown also does a version of the index by state, like state-by-st state version, and it's even worse there. Massachusetts scores almost four times better than Louisiana. That's the same country, y'all. The same flag, four times. And out of the set of legal protections that Georgetown considers most critical for women, things like whether or not you can file a workplace harassment claim, how protected you are from an abusive partner, whether you can take paid time off to care for someone. No state offers all of them.

And six states offer none. None. Six states looked at that list and was like, "No, we're good, fam." You know, a woman's legal protection from the man who hits her depends on which side of a state line she just happens to be standing on. And I don't know if you guys listen to NPR, but NPR's it's been a minute. Actually did an episode on this in July, and I kind of put that in my mental bank back when I heard it.

I didn't really think there was a time or place for me to do it on this podcast, and then I just said, "Fuck it." But they used a word that I think we actually need to start using a whole lot more, and that word is femicide. The killing of women and girls because they are women and girls. Italy actually has it written into its penal code. Mexico has it in its penal code. The United States doesn't. We don't even have a legal category for the thing that keeps fucking happening here.

States have passed laws, sure, specifically about people stealing catalytic converters. A guy saws a part off of your Toyota Prius. There's a statute for that. A guy kills his wife because he's just pissed, you know, at his wife. Homicide, a domestic tragic unforeseen next. And the guest on that episode, we had Abené Clayton from the Guardian. We had Cheryl Neely, who's a sociologist out of Michigan. And they were drawing a line, and I'm going to keep drawing that for the rest of this episode.

All right. There is a pipeline from the everyday misogyny, right? The online misogyny, the jokes in the podcast and the women shouldn't vote posts to the bodies, okay? Because it's not a separate category, you guys. The the guy saying it and the guy doing it are listening to the same podcast. But I want to talk about that date. All right? You know, the one that every woman I know has been on. So, in March, King's College and London released a global survey of about 23,000 people across 29 countries. 31% of Gen Z men agreed that a wife should always obey her husband. 33% said the husband should have the final word on important decisions.

For baby boomer men, the obey number was 13%. Yes. Okay. Let me I'm gonna say that again. 31% of Gen Z men agreed that a wife should always direct quote always obey her husband. 33% of Gen Z said that a husband should have the very final word on any important decisions. Now, the men who grew up with rotary phones, landlines, and leave it to Beaver are less likely to think that you should obey your husband than the men who grew up with TikTok.

We have somehow gone fucking backwards. We raised a generation of boys on the internet and the internet raised them right back into 1955. Great job, everybody. Fantastic work. 24% of Gen Z men said that a woman should not appear too independent or self-sufficient. And then my favorite part, Gen Z men were also the most likely out of any age group, any age bracket, to say that women with successful careers are more attractive. So, they want you successful. They want you making money.

They just want you to obey and then also do all the housework and take care of them. They want a woman who runs a company and then comes home and asks her husband for permission. That's And look, I'm not dating these guys, right? Again, I'm gay. I've got my own problems over here. All right? But the straight women that I love are out there trying to find a partner in a market where a third of young men apparently want a wife who obeys.

Good luck ladies. I sincerely and genuinely mean that, right? Like I'm going to light a candle for each and every one of you. And caveat though, okay, that is a global number. Okay, that is a global number. But it is the direction the general direction of this should scare you. And then we wonder why women are tired at work. In June, Fortune released this 2026 list. A record 56 women are now CEOs of Fortune 500 companies. A record. 11.2%. We hit 11% and they threw a goddamn party.

Imagine your kid coming home with an 11 on a test and then you being like, "Woo!" and putting it up on the fridge. Gallup's numbers show that young women are moving sharply left over the last decade while young men are mostly standing still. So half a generation is basically, you know, reading the data and the other half is kind of being sold a bullshit product, right? You know, but first I want to go back to the question that I mentioned a moment ago.

The last woman on earth, okay, in the cold open because the men who got mad about that kept saying women were being hysterical.

PART TWO: WHEN THE FLOOR FALLS OUT

So, let's look at what women are actually basing that on. All right? And that's two sets of data. That's all you need to answer the last woman on earth question. All right? What happens to women when society collapses and what men do when they think that no one will ever find out? Let's start with the collapse. All right? Because we actually have data to back this up. Let's start with Hurricane Katrina. Okay, two different research teams looked at Mississippi after Hurricane Katrina.

One followed women who'd been displaced into FEMA style type trailer parks. Before the storm, the rate of new genderbased violence cases among those women was about 4 and a half per 100,000 per day. Again 4 1/2 per 100,000 per day. The year after it was 16.3, more than 3 and 12 times higher. Two years out it had dropped, yes, but only to 10. Still more than double where it started. And the researchers said that the increase was driven mostly by intimate partner violence, not strangers, partners.

The men that they were stuck in those trailers with. The second study looked at a representative sample from the 23 southernmost counties of Mississippi. Women reporting physical violence from a partner went from about 4% before Katrina to 8% after. It roughly doubled. And for men, physical victimization didn't change at all. Same storm, same flood, same lost homes. One group started getting hit more. And let me tell you, spoiler alert, it wasn't the men. Victoria, Australia, February 2009. The Black Saturday bushfires.

A researcher named Debra Parkinson interviewed 30 women in the fire zones along with dozens of workers and confirmed what the women already knew. Domestic violence went up. Some of the women described partners who had never a day in their life been violent to them before before the fires happened. And here's the part that made me want to just absolutely cry. Parkinson found that the community, like the police, the case managers, trauma counselors, pressured the women to wait it out, to forgive it because these men had been through something like and some of those men had been heroes in the fires.

The men were the heroes. So, the women were supposed to absorb their punches. That's the deal. That's always been the shitty deal, right? And then Haiti, January 2010, the earthquake killed somewhere around 230,000 people and left more than a million living in tent camps. Amnesty International documented more than 250 reported rapes. That's just in the first 150 days. Women described armed men roaming the camps after dark. No lights, no locks. They had tarps for walls that were barely even pinned up.

And those are the reported ones in a country where the police have basically stopped functioning as a whole. Rwanda, again, I mentioned Germany earlier. Bangladesh in 1971, where estimates run from 200,000 to 400,000 women raped and survivors described being held in camps where they were gang raped. And every single time structure, societal structure goes away, this is the shit that feel that fills the space. And if you want an even smaller scale kind of laboratory, okay, look at what happens in men's prisons when women aren't available at all, federal prison surveys have found that gay and bisexual inmates report sexual victimization by other inmates at far higher rates than straight inmates.

In Human Rights Watch, they had a landmark report on prison rape that got a lot of a lot of attention found that the targets tend to be younger, smaller, and seen as feminine. So, the men who get treated the way women get treated on the outside. And think about what that means, okay? When there are no women, it doesn't stop. The sexual victimization and violence, it doesn't stop. They just try to find the closest substitute. So when a woman says that she knows what would happen to her if she were the last one alive on earth, she's not catastrophizing.

All right? She's literally citing things in facts in other incidents. Now the second piece that I mentioned earlier is what men do when they think that they are ne you know not going to get cocked. Okay. Now, I don't know if you guys remember, but right kind of on the cusp, right when I started this podcast, right as the very Lori Vallow had not even been arrested yet. All right, it was that time where I think it was Nate Eaton. No, it was Lamb.

I can't even remember, guys. My memory is that of a chickpea. It was the reporter from Arizona and he went to Hawaii and tracked down Chad Daybell and Lori Vallow in Hawaii and whatnot. I remember his last name is Lamb. But in any case, I around that time I dropped an episode on Junko Furuta. Okay, if you have not heard that case, it is one of the most horrifying things that I've ever heard happen. So, you can go through previous episodes if you want to hear about what happened to that happen to her because she was a child.

All right? And this happened in November 1988. It was outside Tokyo in Japan. She was 17 years old. She was a high school student. And she was on her way home from her part-time job and she was abducted by four teenage boys and held captive in one of their family homes for about 40 days. She was beaten. She was sexually assaulted repeatedly. She was tortured, set on fire, raped with bottles. Anything that you can think of happened to this child and she died in early January 1989, 2 weeks before her 18th birthday.

Now, the parents of one of the kids whose house that she was held in they were in the house, y'all. They knew what was going on and they did absolutely jack shit and absolutely nothing. The four guys who abducted her even brought other people. Now, you're going to hear a number like over a hundred men came to that house and took part in assaulting her. I have never in my life actually read that on any source that I have found on Junko Furuta.

Okay. But what is documented is enough. Yes. Other boys and other men came and went. People knew. The adults in the house knew, men and women, and no one called anyone, the police, and no one stopped it. Then there's Gisèle Pelicot. And you know this one because I just did the damn episode a couple weeks ago. Her husband Dominique drugged her for nearly a decade from 2011 to 2020 and recruited men online to come to their home and rape her while she was unconscious.

He filmed it. Police believe that 72 men came to that house. In total, 51 men were convicted in December 2024, including him. He got 20 years in prison. More than 20 of the men on those videos have never even been identified. And not one of the men he contacted, including the ones who said, "No, I don't want to take part in that. That's fucked up." None of them even went to police. Think about that. Some of those men, yeah, to their credit, they turned what?

Turned down raping an unconscious woman. They read the invitation. They understood. They understood exactly what it was and they were like, "No, fam. Not for me." And then they just closed their laptop or set their phone down and went to bed. A woman was being drugged and raped in a village in Provence for years. And the men who knew and declined decided not my business. A woman being raped in her own bed was not their fucking business. And that's the silent group, right, that I'm talking about earlier.

That's not the, you know, the sweet angel babies of the men who are out there you know, acknowledging this and all of that. And I was actually, you know, in preparation for this episode, I wanted to get a little bit more social exposure. So, I went to the my favorite cespool, which is Reddit, and they have a really interesting subreddit on there. It's called like men advice, and you can find some good and really piss poor takes on that. And so this question of someone asked, have you guys seen women answer the question, you know, what would happen?

What would you do if you were the last woman on earth? And so many men to their credit, they, you know, what would you say to a woman or, you know, who answered this question? And a lot of them apologized and they were like, I would say, I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry that you know that you would rather die than be alive and blah blah blah. They they made the right response to that. All right. But there were so many other men who were just so tonedeaf and so clueless and again went on the women are just fucking hysterical and they like it or just all of this just obscene nasty shit All right.

So I want to be clear that I'm not talking about the men who are cognizant of what's going on, sympathetic and working to affect change. I'm talking about the silent men, right? Because that's what silence looks like. You know, it's like a it looks like a guy who'd never do it himself, but he's just going to delete the message. I mean, most recently in the Cornell case, right, the Cornell 7 case, how many men over 50 men were in that group chat where they were posting pictures of her come, you know, come in and get it.

Literally telling and advertising her passed out basically body for the other fraternity brothers to come rape. Okay, that's the same group here. And then in March, CNN published an investigation into online networks where men trade methods for drugging and raping their own partners. I covered this back in September, okay, on the Gisèle Pelicot episode. Go back and listen to that. I talk a about a lot of this and I'm going to say it again. You know what I what I said back then?

Because I watched that same wrong number creep back into my damn feed this month. You've probably seen the claim that 62 million men were part of an online rape academy. No, that is wrong. Okay, 62 million was the total number of visits to the entire porn site in one month. The whole site like all other all videos. Okay, so the real number from CNN is smaller. It's about a thousand men found that particular board. Okay, they were trading drug names, trading doses, warning each other about overdose risk, which means that they knew that they could kill their spouses and treated it in kind of a product safety note.

By the way, this is really strong. If you give her, you know, a CC too much, she's going to die. They were selling live streams of their unconscious wives or girlfriends for about 20 to 50 bucks ahead. 62 million is weather. All right. Like a thousand is about a small town. A thousand is a medium-sized high school. A thousand men in one room taking notes on how to rape their wives and girlfriends and not get caught doing it. Like it is a fucking webinar.

There are more of these cases moving through courts in the UK right now. I covered those in the Gisèle Pelicot episode as well. Go look it up. This is not just an isolated events that event that happened, you know, once twice in France, once in the US. This is happening all over the world multiple times. And let's not forget the active case that I'm covering right now. Sandra Birchmore. She was 23 when she was found dead in her apartment in Canton, Massachusetts in February of 2021.

She was pregnant. Her death was ruled a suicide. And federal prosecutors say that's not what happened. They say that Matthew Farwell, the police officer she met through his department's youth program, he started sexually abusing her when she was 15 years old and he was 27. Years later, he killed her and then staged it to look like she committed suicide by hanging. Farwell has pleaded not guilty. I'm covering that this trial in depth right now and it's happening in federal court in Boston.

He's, you know, and I'll tell you this much, okay? That jury is spending weeks hearing about what happened to a girl who joined a police youth program. Like Mica Miller, her death in South Carolina back in 2024 was ruled a suicide after what her family describes as a very long documented pattern of harassment and control by her fucking husband. And her husband, a pastor, has been federally charged with cyberstalking and with lying to investigators. And I'm again doing the Mica Miller series right now and the background of that because it's so heinously sad.

Then let's talk about the women connected to the investigation in the house in Olney, in Philadelphia. I'm covering that right now as well. You know their names because I've said them a thousand times in this podcast. No one has yet been charged in connection with their disappearances and probably not considering that R.C. Horsch the elder father in that you know home is dead now. Okay. And then the woman also in Marchtrenk, Austria who died in September, her husband is suspected of drugging and sexually abusing her.

Prosecutors are still currently investigating that one and a lot of what's been reported about other men being involved hasn't been confirmed yet. But it looks like it's just more of the same. And that's just this show, you guys. That's just me with the microphone over a month and a half. I don't even go looking for these, okay? I don't go actively looking for these. I can just simply barely keep up with them. So, when someone tells me that women are overreacting, I want to hand them my research folder on my Google Drive and watch their face drop.

Overreacting. We are underreacting. If women reacted proportionately to the actual numbers that are being reported, this whole fucking country would be on fire. Instead, we make threads posts. We make podcasts. We text each other, "Get home safe. Let me know when you get home every single night like it's a normal thing to do." Guys, have you ever realized that should not be normal? Men don't text each other that. People don't text each other that in other countries even. Oh, wait. They're higher up on the end safety index than we are.

But men don't text each other that, right? And think about that the next time you tell a woman she's being dramatic.

PART THREE: THE SALESMEN

So, who's raising the boys who think that their wives should obey them? All right. And I'm going to be honest, not their dads, obviously, per the data. Mostly their phones. And let's start with the franchise player here. All right. Andrew Tate, former kickboxer, self-described misogynist, a man who has said on camera that he moved to Romania in part because he thought law enforcement there would be more lax. And how's that going for you, Andrew? He and his shipback brother Tristan were arrested in Romania back in 2022 on allegations of human trafficking, rape, and forming a criminal group to sexually exploit women.

They've denied everything from day one and called it persecution for their views. And that case has been grinding through Romanian Romanian courts for almost 4 years now. And then don't forget over the summer in July, both of them were arrested in Florida on a UK extradition request. British prosecutors want them on rape and other sex offense charges. And as of now, they are still waiting in federal custody in Miami. And then on September 4th, Romanian prosecutors indicted Andrew Tate again. Trafficking of minors, sex with a minor, money laundering.

Tristan, his brother, is charged with complicity. And prosecutors alleged that back in 2012, the brothers recruited a 15-year-old girl in England, transported her to Romania repeatedly, and took more than a million dollar from her webcam work where, yep, she was naked. That's the allegation. Obviously, they deny it, and nothing has been proven in court yet. But I want you to notice something here, okay? This is a man who spent years telling teenage boys that the problem with modern women is that they don't know their place.

And the place he's in right now is a federal detention center in Miami. You know, the man who sold Escape the Matrix can't even escape a, you know, Dade County jail like top G federal detainee, right? But boys still watch him. Guys, have you seen the men who are actually going to the jail to Dade County and they're standing outside protesting in solidarity with him? Yeah, they're doing that and boys are still watching him. The charges against Andrew Tate didn't kill the brand.

To a lot of his audience, the charges are the brand, right? Proof that the system is out to get men like him, you know? And then there's the new kid, Clavicular. Holy shit His real name is Braden Peters. He's just 20 years old. He's a live streamer and he's become the face of looks maxing, which is basically the internet's word for doing anything and everything you can to make yourself more attractive. And he, at least when I first heard of him, I found out about him because he was hitting his face with a hammer, his jaw, trying to reshape the bone.

Yes, that is a real thing that some young men in the looksmaxxing community are doing to their own damn faces on purpose for a fucking chiseled jawline. And Clavicular got rich off of it. The New York Times reported earlier this year that he was making more than $100,000 a month just streaming on kick. And this summer he did a full podcast tour. You know, it was kind of positioned as this weird and but harmless thing, a voice for Gen Z guys.

And then back in March, he was arrested in Fort Lauderdale and it was connected to a fight between two women. He's accused of instigating a fight between them and then posting the fight online. In May, he pleaded no contest to firing a gun at a dead alligator in the Everglades. Okay, like that's an actual court record. He shot a dead alligator already dead. He shot it anyway for content. And then the serious one which is going on right now which I've said this in the last couple episodes.

What the fuck is going on Massachusetts? Now I am moving to Massachusetts and I just have to say what is going on there between Matthew Farwell, Karen Read, Lindsay Clancy, Braden Peters aka Clavicular living there. Like what is going on? All right. I guess I'll I guess I'm going to be living there so I will find out. But in any case in Massachusetts. All right. Again, Braden Peters, aka Clavicular, he has been charged with rape, with drugging a person for sexual intercourse, and with procuring alcohol for someone under 21.

The alleged victim was 17 years old. And according to the police statement, she says they met online, that he invited her to his family's home in Chatham on Cape Cod in May of 2025 and had her on his stream. She claims that he gave her vodka until she was very, very drunk and that she woke up to him raping her. Last Thursday on the 22nd, he was arraigned in Orleans District Court and he pleaded not guilty to all three charges. Bail was set at $10,000 and he had to surrender his passport and he's ordered not to contact her her or post about her.

Now, his lawyers say that the encounter was consensual, and they point out that the allegations first came to police in June of this year, around the same time that she and her attorney were pursuing a civil lawsuit against him. His team has filed a motion to dismiss, and he's due back in court for a probable cause hearing on November 24th. And he walked into that arraignment in a dark suit holding a dog on a leash. He brought a dog to his rape arraignment.

That's the looks maxing version of a character witness. Okay? The judge told him that if he gets arrested again, his bails revoked, but he still brought a fucking dog to his rape arraignment. Now, here's my problem. All right? And it's not with the 20-year-old who may or may not have been convicted with any of anything. All right? It's with every adult. It's with every adult who has handed Clavicular aka Braden a microphone. Every single of age podcast host who's looked at any of these shitbirds, you know, their entire business model is rating human beings like produce and thought, "This guy's interesting.

Let's give him an hour on the show." Like, every single one of you should be embarrassed as hell for this, you know? Or the whatever podcast. Oh my god, you know, bringing on sex workers and other people and all they do is they just get verbally abused for basically half a day. If you say anything as a decent human being at all, you are shouted down, ridiculed, and it is absolutely disgusting. Absolutely disgusting. Because the product that these men sell, guys, it's not really fitness.

It's not money. It's not confidence. It's literally their own personal grievances and that's it. You know, it's you're lonely, you're broke, you're invisible, and it's a woman's fault. It's her fault. Women got too picky. Women got too independent. Women went out and got jobs and opinions and oh my god, they got the right to vote. You know, the fixes to all of this is to get bigger, get swole, go to the gym, take this supplement, buy our product, get richer, get harder, make her obey.

And that's where the 31% comes from, y'all. That number is a legit number from a university study. It doesn't just fall out of the sky. And it's not just two guys, right? There is a whole fucking ecosystem here. The high value man guys, right? The women hit the wall at 30 guys, the what's your body count guys sitting on a couch in a studio. They all had the neon lights, the neon signs, and they're interrogating 22-year-old women about how many people they've slept with like and literally call them used cars.

Ask them what their mileage is. The guys who say a woman's opinion is worth less than a man's because she's emotional, while they are the ones screaming into a microphone about a woman who didn't text them back or who didn't, you know, accept their invitation to dinner. The women shouldn't vote guys, right? The traditional wife guys who couldn't even change a tire or a diaper to save their own lives. And the algorithm online feeds it to boys. A 12-year-old watches. They watch one video about getting abs and then three days later he's watching, you know, a man in a rented Lamborghini explain that women are their property.

That is not an accident, right? That's the entire business model working exactly as planned. Engagement. Rage, anger, resentment, that's all that all equals engagement. And there's a debate that I watched this week, too, that shows you how well this shit sells. I love Okay, I'm part of the problem. Okay, I'm going to go ahead and admit I'm part of the problem. It was one of those Jubilee videos, all right? You know, where they put people with opposite views in a room, particularly one person in a chair with a very strong view and then like 20 other people in folding chairs all around them and they just let them go at each other and then when the argument from, you know, the mass goes poor, the group can vote them out and let somebody else go.

Okay. Well, there was a man on one side arguing that there's a men's mental health crisis. Men's suicide rates are higher. Men are lonely, lonier, society expects too much of them. And then across from him, there was a woman who makes adult content on OnlyFans. And he goes straight after her. He's like, "You're a drug dealer." You know, tries to explain that an orgasm releases as much dopamine as heroin, so she's selling a drug. She's making men lonelier. Which is, okay, that's kind of like a sci-fi factoid, but all right.

And she starts flipping his own logic and it's brilliant and he's using suicide as the proof that men are lonier. So she points out that women attempt suicide more often than men do. And if attempts count as a measure of how much pain someone's in, then by his own standard, women are the lonier ones. He's like, "Well, we're talking about death." And she says, "Okay, so if someone tries and they survive, they were less lonely than someone who didn't. That doesn't make any sense."

And then she says something, and I think this is the sharpest thing in the entire video. She claims that the overwhelming majority of her subscribers are married. And she threw out a specific a specific number, and I actually couldn't verify it, but she said like 89% of Only F OnlyFans subscribers are married men. That is completely she said that only fans provide statistics. I couldn't personally verify that and I did try but she threw out a number but her point stands is that these men aren't victims of loneliness.

Plenty of them are just quote unquote cheating, right? They're horny and they're entitled and now they've borrowed the language of mental health to make it sound like something happened to them. And she's like, "Look, before women started making real money off of this, no one talked about men's porn use as loneliness. If a wife complained, she got told that she was insecure. It's just physical. It means nothing. The loneliness language only showed up once women started getting paid and paid well."

Now, this is where it would be easy to be cruel, okay? And I'm not cruel. Men's suicide, the crisis is real. Okay, it is absolutely real. In this country, men die by suicide at roughly four times the rate that women do. However, women attempt more often. Men die more often in large, you know, in a large part because of the means that they use. Now, both of those things are true at the same time and both of them are awful, horrifying.

And if you're a man listening to this and you're in that place right now, I'm talking to you directly. Call or text 988. All right? That's not a gotcha. Like, I sincerely mean it. I do not want anything bad to happen to you. Men's loneliness is a real thing, too. Okay? That survey that I mentioned earlier, 30% of Gen Z men said that they couldn't tell their male friends, "I love you." 43% said young men should try to be physically tough, even if they're not naturally big.

You build a box of masculinity that small. Of course, the men inside of it are that lonely. But what really makes me angry is that the manosphere doesn't treat men's pain as a reason to fix anything. It treats it as ammunition to attack women. It takes a real crisis and points it at women. You're lonely because of her. You're depressed because of her. And the product they try to sell to fix it, the courses, the subscriptions, the supplements, the podcast deals, it doesn't make men less lonely.

It makes them angrier, lonelier, broker, more violent, and it keeps them subscribed to the pipeline. That is the whole scam, right? The it's kind of like the salesmen don't need you healed, right? They need you mad, right? Because mad is the recurring revenue. And I'm so fucking tired of being the content. Women are the raw material for this entire industry, right? We're the villain always. We're the punchline. We're the thing they're angry at so they can sell you the cure to it.

We don't even get paid for it, you know? At least the only fans girl gets paid, I guess. And I think that we've all I know that I have on previous episodes.

PART FOUR: LINDSAY CLANCY AND THE MEN WHO COULDN'T LET IT GO

If you want to see the whole thing on just one stage, right? One shining example. Look at how men reacted to Lindsay Clancy. Quick recap if you're new here. January of 2023 in Massachusetts, Lindsay Clancy's three children were killed. Cora was five, Dawson was three, Callan was eight, eight months old. Lindsay was herself was charged with her murders. She pleaded not guilty and her defense argued that she was suffering from postpartum psychosis and wasn't criminally responsible. The trial started in July of this year.

Now, apparently she was struggling. There were a billion signs all over the place. From what we are aware of based on the facts, her husband Patrick didn't really help out as much as he probably could have, but she he went out to get dinner, went out to get stuff, and she took that time apparently allegedly to suffocate her three children and then she jumped out the window in a suicide attempt. She did not die, but she is paralyzed from the waist down.

Now, on September 4th, the judge in the case, Judge William Sullivan, declared a mistrial. The jury deadlocked. Jurors have said publicly that it was 11 to one in favor of not guilty by reason of insanity and that the one hold out was a man. On October 1st, the judge denied a defense request to just find her not guilty. The district attorney's office still hasn't said whether it's actually going to retry her. The next hearing in the case, which I will obviously be covering, is on November 2nd, and she again is legally innocent of murder until a jury makes a decision saying otherwise.

I've done at least 20 episodes on this case so far. All right, I'm not going to relitigate the evidence or go through it all again here in this episode. I want to talk about the response to this specifically with the men because I think that a lot of the early coverage women showed up to support her outside that courtroom in droves. It became a massive moment in the media, okay, of women, you know, going wearing pink holding signs in support of mental health and saying, "I could have been her because I too suffered from postpartum depression, you know, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah."

Now, after the mistrial, NBC 10 Boston actually did some digging and dug into that holdout juror, and here's what they reported. All right, this is from court records and interviews with this man's family. In 2021, he faced a domestic violence allegation. The account in that reporting involves his wife, and the charge was actually later dismissed. In 2025, his teenage nephew took out a restraining order against him, alleging that the juror pushed him to the ground and punched him in the face repeatedly.

A judge found enough evidence there to issue it. That restraining order was still active when he was seated on the Lindsay Clancy jury in July. He sat through weeks of testimony while under a restraining order. Now, the Massachusetts juror questionnaires do ask whether you've been arrested, charged with the crime, or served the court order. We don't know how he answered, okay? Because the judge has impounded the questionnaires. And for the record, legal experts have said that a dismissed charge or a civil restraining order does not automatically disqualify someone from serving on a jury.

But look at what happened next year. Okay? Strangers raised more than $100,000 for him on GoFundMe. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis offered him quote direct quote asylum in Florida if he faces harassment. Asylum for a guy with an active restraining order from a teenager from a guy who abused his own wife. Ron DeSantis looked at this man and saw a refugee. Are you shitting me? Women beg courts for protective orders and get told, you know, pound sand or come back with more bruises.

Come back when you're dead. And this guy gets a hundred fucking thousand and a governor offering him to come to a state. Now, put that next to how men talked about Lindsay Clancy. You know, there was a thread on the Ask Men subreddit that I mentioned earlier asking more or less why the reactions to this case split so radically along the lines of gender. There was a Facebook post that went around with a headline about how differently men and women reacted to it, right?

Calling the difference astounding. And if you spent any time in any comment sections or, you know, local news stations will post an article about Lindsay Clancy and then the comments just blow up. You know what I'm talking about. I lost brain cells. I lost years off of my life. I am convinced. The women were all over the map. Some thought she should go to prison forever. Some thought she was profoundly sick and failed by everyone around her. Some held both of those at once.

You saw grief. You saw anger. You saw nuance. And almost always you saw people treating everyone involved, including those three little children who died, including her, as human beings. The men were nearly in fucking lock step. They wanted her dead. Not convicted, dead. And any woman who brought up postpartum psychosis was accused of wanting moms to be able to kill their kids with no consequences. You know, and here's what gets me, okay? These men can sustain months of this white hot rage over something that is so extraordinarily rare.

A mother killing her children is genuinely one of the rarest crimes there is. Meanwhile, the daily constant statistically, you know, in ourface evidence, you know, boring the violence that men do to women, the stuff that we just went through for an hour now already, it does not even register for them. And if we bring it up, we are called sensitive or hysterical or man-haters. And they are right about one thing. All right? Three children are dead. And it's absolutely monstrous. And a when a woman is accused of this kind of violence, again that's again overwhelmingly committed by men, they cannot wait to make an example of her because it is the one time they get to point in a woman and say, "See, you know, I asked back in September where the t-shirts were for the fathers who kill their families, the family annihilators, right?

Like they're overwhelmingly men." overwhelmingly men. Where's the rage for them? Right? Where are they on the threads? Where's the governor offering anybody asylum in that? Like, I'm still fucking waiting for that. And I'll be I'll be waiting a goddamn long time because the rage was never really about the fact that Lindsay Clancy's children were killed. Because if it was about the children, they'd be just as loud about the dads when they do it. It was about her. Okay? It was about getting to hate a woman out loud and feel like they were justified.

And you know what? Nobody else wanted to talk about that. We've been here before. Andrea Yates was 25 years ago. After Andrea Yates, everyone swore up and down that it was a wakeup call for postpartum mental health. People on both sides of the argument. And then we had a couple of years of awareness and nothing actually changed. Women still feel fill out a little questionnaire at the postpartum visit. And a lot of them lie on it because they're terrified that someone's going to take their kids.

Awareness without action is not progress. And I'm so tired of the lack of progress. I'm so tired of just basic awareness. Y'all, everybody's aware. We have been aware since the 1970s. Aware is not an actual policy. Aware doesn't pay for a night nurse. Aware doesn't watch the kids so a woman who hasn't slept in four freaking months can sleep. Aware doesn't just arrive. People do, right? People do. And the people cleaning up this mess and the healthare workers and the psyches and all of that are almost mostly women.

Mostly women and mostly exhausted. But moving on, I want to do something a little bit different now. Okay. And like I said, this is going to be a very, very, very, very, very long episode. Very, very long episode. So, apologies. Listen to it in pieces if you need to, but I want to do something a little bit different here now. Okay.

PART FIVE: THE ROLL CALL

People keep talking about how rare this is, but I beg to differ. Here are 15 of the worst crimes committed against women in modern time, and you're you're going to start to know a shame. Okay. Marc Lépine, he was responsible for the Montreal Polytechnique massacre that happened in 1989. He killed 14 women and said that he was fighting feminism. Ted Bundy goes without explanation, but he confessed to 30 murders of women and girls across seven states. He was executed in 1989.

Gary Ridgway, he pleaded guilty to 49 murders of women in the Seattle and Tacoma area. And again, he chose sex workers because he figured no one would care enough about them to look. Samuel Little, he confessed to 93 murders between 1970 and 2005. And the FBI still to this day calls him the most prolific serial killer in US history. Robert Pickton, British Columbia pig farmer. He was convicted of six murders and the remains or DNA of 33 women were found on the farm.

Peter Sutcliffe, the Yorkshire Ripper. He murdered 13 women and attempted to murder seven more in England between 75 and 80. Then we have Joseph D'Angelo, the Golden State Killer. I did a whole series on him. A former cop. He has at least 13 m murders and dozens of rapes. And listen to the episodes that I put out on that because God just absolutely terrifying. He would go into people's homes if he saw a woman or whatever. He would go into their home, stake it out, he would remove any guns, weapons, any method of fighting back and then he would literally show up in their bedroom after even a woman and he would attack women when their husbands or boyfriends were sleeping beside them in bed.

Wayne Couzens. He was an active metropolitan police officer in London and he kidnapped, raped and murdered a girl back in 2021. And then the Delhi bus attackers. Do you remember that was a gang rape of a student back in 2012. Four of the men involved in that were executed in 2020. She was literally raped to death. Vuarez, Mexico, the femicides, hundreds of women have been murdered there since the 1990s and mostly they just get away with it. Like they don't even try anymore obviously because you know cartel and all of that.

The Isla Vista killer, he killed six people in 2014 after you know a manifesto about punishing women and becoming an incel icon. Alek Minassian the Toronto van attack back in 2018. He killed 10 people, eight of them women, after posting about an incel rebellion. Larry Nassar, he sexually abused hundreds of girls and young women while working at the USA gymnastics, as well as being a Michigan State doctor. And then naturally, lastly, Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell, right? Sex trafficking of underage girls.

We don't even know the depth of depravity and awful things that have happened or you know been perpetrated by the two of them. And our sitting president refuses to investigate it or allow any files to be released. Okay. Then we have Scott Peterson. Obviously he was convicted of murdering his wife Laci who was eight months pregnant as well obviously as their unborn son Conner. So, it's, you know, that's not just 15 sick individuals, right? Or 16, I guess, including Ghislaine Maxwell as well.

That is a fucking pattern, y'all. It is the same pattern from earlier in the episode, just with actual, you know, more names attached to it. Unless we not forget, and this is going to piss some of you off, but I mean, it is fact. You cannot shy away from this. The most powerful man in this country talks about women just like this. Okay?

THE MAN AT THE TOP

And not going to lie, jaded poli sci major me has been waiting patiently to come out and I'm letting her out now. You know, here are the five most misogynistic things that Trump has said. Okay, first obviously the Access Hollywood tape that he recorded in 2005 released it was released in 2016. He's caught bragging on a hot mic that when you're a star, women let you do anything. You can just grab them by the pussy His response at the time was that it was locker room talk and he apologized.

You know, the charitable read here is that he was just bragging about it and never did it. But that's gross. Even if he didn't do it, the brag is the problem. He thought that was a flex. And then the country elected him. Okay. Twice somehow. Debatable. The first time a month after that tape came out. The second time after a jury found him liable for sexual abuse. So don't tell me that this is just a few bad apples in a comment section that you know tens of millions of men and women heard him say that and were like that's not that bad you know and again some of them were women and I will never fucking understand that either but you do you honey boo boo and then 2015 after Megyn Kelly asked him in a debate about the way he talked about women afterward he said on CNN that she had blood coming out of her eyes blood coming out of her wherever He later said he meant her nose.

Yeah, sure. All right. Basically, you know the old joke of she must have been on her period. Also in 2015 talking to Rolling Stone about Carly Fiorina who was running against him for the nomination. Look at that face. Would anyone vote for that? He later tried to because there was such an outro amongst Republicans because she was also obviously a Republican. He was like, "Oh, no. I was talking about her persona." her persona. Yeah, my ass. Then 2024 rally in Green Bay, Wisconsin.

He told the crowd his adviser said it was inappropriate for him to keep saying he'd protect women. And he said that he told them that he was going to do it whether the women like it or not. His campaign said that he was talking about protecting women from migrant crime. Okay? And whether we like it or not. I mean, you cannot write a more honest summary of the whole world view if you tried. Okay. And then lastly, last year 2025 on Air Force One, Catherine Lucey from Bloomberg was pressing him about the Epstein files and he pointed at her face and said, "Quiet, quiet, piggy."

And the White House immediately double down. I mean, like they do when he says something heinous, they double down and they claim that Catherine Lucey was the one who was behaving inappropriately towards her colleagues on the plane. You know, she asked a question. That is her fucking job. He called a grown woman doing her job a pig on a plane in front of the entire press pool and his staff's defense was that she had it coming. What a petty, pathetic pile of bullshit You know, that's the guy that's the guy that a lot of young men look at as the role model for how a powerful man talks about women.

And when the person at the top says it, when the leader of the free world says shit like this, and I'm not even getting into his involvement in the Epstein shit which he's all over it everywhere. We even have senators coming out and being like, "Yeah, he's in it and he raped children." I'm not even getting into that. I'm just going off of his own direct quotes that have come out of his own mouth in public. Children, young boys, these people, everyone below him, they hear permission from that.

All right. Now, I got to delve into politics a little bit. I feel better now.

PART SIX: I HATE MEN

Now, I'm going to give my useless French degree a turn. I want to talk about a book and it's called Moi les hommes, je les déteste. And my French accent sucks y'all. I can write it as long as the day and I can respond, but my accent, you can't take the south out of the girl, I guess. But in English, it translates to I hate men. And it's an essay and it's under 100 pages. You can find it online. You can buy it.

I highly suggest it. And it's by a French writer named Pauline Harmange. Now, she was 25 years old when she when she wrote it. And the detail that I love is that she's bisexual and married to a man. And she wrote a whole book literally called I Hate Men and then went home to her husband. I love it. But it came out in 2020 from this tiny little volunteerrun micro publisher called Monstrograph. And the first print run was 450 copies. 450.

Okay, like that's not even an actual book launch. That's like a medium-sized wedding. But I digress. September 2020, a man by the name of Ralph Zurmély, he was a special adviser at France's Ministry for Gender Equality, you know, the gender equality ministry well, he emailed the publisher and threatened them with criminal prosecution for inciting hatred on the basis of sex. He called the book an ode to misandry. The ministry said that it was his personal initiative and had nothing to do with them.

They were like, "No, bro. That's all on you." But it was too late. The story broke. The book sold out. Then it sold out again. A major French publishing house picked it up. Harper Collins put it in the English translation. In 2021, the New York Times wrote it up and translation rights went all over the world. A man at the gender equality ministry tried to make a 450 copy pamphlet disappear and instead he turned it into an international bestseller. So what's it actually about?

It's not a manifesto for violence. It's not even really a manifesto for hate the way that men are imagining it. Her entire argument is that women have always had to pretend that we don't hate men so that we don't lose men as allies and so we don't get called hysterical or even worse for that matter. And she's asking what happens if we stop pretending. If distrusting men, disliking men, and yes, maybe even for some hating men is a reasonable response to how we have been and how we are being treated.

And what if instead of spending our lives managing men's feelings, we put that energy into each other, into other women, into ourselves? And she actually leans on data, too. The book cites French statistics from 2018, and it shows that 96% of people convicted of domestic violence were men. Again, 96%. 99% of those convicted of sexual violence were men. And then she makes the point that, you know, it's kind of become the line that everyone quotes from the book. She said, "misandry has never killed anyone."

And I mean, my review personally of it, it's short, it's sharp, it's smug as hell in places, and I mean that in the best as the best compliment ever. You know, where I pushed back though is that hate is kind of a heavy word. And she uses it partly to provoke obviously, right? But I think that when you actually read it, what she's describing is withdrawal, disinvestment, right? Or what some of you may have heard, we need to desenter men, right?

Not wanting to spend your one life explaining yourself to someone who is not listening and could not care less. That's not a hate crime. All right? And that's what I think most women mean when we say it. Like, I can say all day long, "God, I fucking hate men. I'm so tired of men." But yet my best friends in the world are men and I love them more than anything in this world. Now separately a fascinating study last year actually a researcher named Erica Coppolillo published a study in scientific reports called women who hate men.

She compared the incelss and men's rights subreddits with gender critical which Reddit banned in 2020 for promoting hate and transphobia as well as the main feminism subreddit. Now, her conclusion is that there's no systematic differences. Gendered hate is a feature of toxic communities, not of one gender. You know, user by user, the Feminism sub even scored highest on hate. Okay? Yes, hate is corrosive, no matter who's holding it, y'all. GenderCritical got banned for a damn good reason, by the way. But by her own measure, the misogynist subs were more toxic with Incels the worst.

And she admits in her own paper that misandry doesn't have anything close to the institutional backing that misogyny does. And that's the whole damn thing. All right. Women's anger at men can make a comment section ugly. Right? Men's anger at women fills cemeteries. A study of Reddit comments can't measure that difference.

PART SEVEN: EVEN THE ROOMS WE BUILT

Now, I want to tell a story, okay? I want to start with a story and I want to frame it very, very carefully because believe it or not, y'all, I do try to hold myself to a standard here. Now, again, I read this on threads. It went viral over the weekend and it was a post from a woman who said that she's an emergency room nurse. And obviously, I can't verify it, okay? But based on the really quick Googling that I looked at earlier and the numbers, I literally had tears in my eyes.

Okay, I can't verify the story. I don't know this woman. I'm just telling you what she wrote and I'm telling you upfront that it's one post from just one person on the internet. Okay, but again, this post went viral. She wrote about an intake. It was a woman who was eight months pregnant. She came into the ER and her husband had raped her anally because according to the post, he couldn't penetrate her vaginally that late in the pregnancy. The internal tearing of her rectum was so severe that she was in the process of hemorrhaging to death.

She needed immediate emergency surgery because she was bleeding out. A woman carrying a nearly full-term baby close to dying on an operating table because the man she married decided that her body was still his to use when the usual way was off the table. Now, here's what made me just break. Okay, half the comments half at least were about the well, there were there were broken into two buckets. All right. Half the comments were about the wording. People in the replies telling the nurse that she should call it unwanted sexual contact because sex doesn't just involve vaginas because the way she described what happens to a woman's body wasn't inclusive enough.

And I'm going to say this out loud without any I don't even have the words for it. Just are you fucking kidding me? All right. A pregnant woman almost bled to death and the comment section turned it into a seminar on terminology. Half of those replies didn't even have a single word for what she witnessed or the woman that it happened to. Not a single word about him at all. Just a fight over whether we're still allowed to say the word vagina when a woman's vagina is the whole reason that it actually happened.

Okay. Unwanted sexual contact. That's not more inclusive. All right. That's the phrase you use when some drunk piece of shit brushes brushes against your ass at a concert. What happened to that woman has a name and it is called rape. It is one of the most violent rapes. The way that she described it, it is one of the most violent rapes I have ever heard described. And people wanted to sand the edges off of it so that no one's vocabulary gets bruised.

And something that I am noticing before I launch into this, the other half of the comments were from women who described their own instances of that. And something that I learned which apparently is a very common phrase straight married women can you can you verify this is one the phrase you have two other holes and two hands is apparently something that many women's husbands have told them when they are pregnant and still demanding sexual gratification from them. You have two other holes in two hands is I mean 15 comments of other women saying that their husbands actually said that to them.

So that's cool. That's really really cool. But this episode has been a lengthy one and I am bringing it home guys so we know what time it is.

REALITY CHECK

All right, y'all. Reality check. And I'm going to put the jokes down now. And I want to speak seriously on this. Okay, here's where we are. Six in 10 women in this country have experienced violence from a partner. Nearly one in five have survived the kind that can kill. Less than a quarter of sexual violence gets reported. And we are 31st in the world on women's well-being. And that's after we improved from 38. Almost a third of the youngest generation of men surveyed around the world say a wife should always obey.

And two of the loudest voices selling fucking toxic toxic masculinity to boys right now are at this moment facing rape charges. That's that's the ground. Okay, that's the ground. That's the baseline. Now, let's talk about what actually changes it. Because if all I do is just piss you off, make you angry, I've only done half of my job here, okay? And I promised myself when I came back on this podcast that I wouldn't just report awful shit I would also talk about ways to affect change.

And I'm going to start with the men, okay? Specifically, the men who have made it this far in the episode, okay? Which is essentially the whole episode, which if you are one of them, thank you and I sincerely mean that. You're probably in the middle group, right? You're not doing it. You never do it. And you've never said anything either. All right. But here's what no one tells you. The middle group is the one that decides how all of this is going to go.

Not the women, not the tape brothers, you. Because the men who do this are reading the room, right? Like there's a whole body of research on this. Men tend to overestimate how okay other men are with sexist and coercive behavior. And men who commit sexual violence are actually less likely to believe that their friends approve. They are checking the joke in the group chat is just a check, right? It's just kind of like a temperature reading. The comment about the co-worker is a check.

The guy who sends the link to the to the whatever stream with the husband raping his wife while she's asleep, that's checking. Every single time no one says anything, the answer comes back as you know, we're all good, bro. So, please say something. And it doesn't have to be some fancy speech like, "Dude, that's not funny. Why would you send me that? Like, I'm not comfortable with how you talk about her. That's fucked up." It will be awkward, right? For about 4 seconds.

Remember the men who got Dominique Pelicot's message and said no and then went to bed. Don't be the guy who said no and went to bed. If you have sons, nephews, little brothers, you are competing with a man who makes $100,000 a month to talk directly to them. You will lose that fight if you don't show up. Okay? Ask them who they watch. Watch it with them. Ask them what they think of it. Not to shame them directly or make them feel bad, but just to let them hear an adult man say out loud, "That guy is selling you bullshit." and take your own loneliness seriously, too.

Okay? Because it is real and it's being weaponized against you. It's being weaponized against all men. 30% of the youngest men in that survey think you shouldn't tell your friends that you love them. Tell them anyway. Call your friend. Go to the thing with your friend. Join whatever league you're in. Go to therapy if you can get it. We all need I am a huge proponent that we all could benefit from therapy. And the answer to men's loneliness is other people, especially including other men.

The answer is not a subscription to whatever website to either a tape brother or an OnlyFans girl, right? Like it is definitely not a woman that you've been taught that you are owed. And if you're in a bad place right now, again, call crisis lines. It's also there for you, too. Now, I want to talk to the women, ladies, ma'ams. You're allowed to be tired. You are allowed to pull back. You're allowed to decide that you're not going to spend another fucking year of your life explaining your own humanity to someone who's not listening and does not care.

That is not hate. But please protect your actual safety while you do it because the data says that the danger is concentrated in the people closest to us, not in strangers. If something feels wrong in your relationship, National Domestic Violence Hotline will help you make a safety plan. I have frequently brought that up. They will actively speak with you and help you form a safety or exit plan. And you don't have to be sure it's abuse to even call them. All right?

Leaving, as everyone knows, is often the most dangerous time and when a lot of this violence occurs. Okay? And the National Domestic Violence Hotline, they are trained and they know how to help you do it safely. And ladies, we need more than anything to invest in each other. All right, that's the, you know, underneath the pro the provocative title Harmange's book, the I hate men book, like that's the actual point of it. Every single hour that you spend managing a man who doesn't respect you is an hour that you didn't spend with a woman who does and a woman who's invested in your growth.

The friendships, the group chats, the networks, the women who will pick you up at two in the morning, no questions asked. I know I've been there. Build those connections. Okay? It's not a consolation prize for a lack of male attention. Like, that's the infrastructure for healthy lives. And protect spaces, okay? Protect lesbian bars, women's shelters, rape crisis centers, women's book clubs, women's softball leagues or soccer leagues. Like when a space built for women dies, it almost never comes back. Show up to them, fund them, drink at them, tip the bartender like you, you know, like you mean it.

Now, I do want to discuss the institutions really quickly because it wouldn't be a Robin podcast if I didn't. Michele Decker's oped this morning, right? It laid out strategies and two of them are ones that I very much want everyone to know. The first is housing and economic support for survivors. Women go back to abusive partners because their alternative is homelessness. If you want fewer women killed in this country, make it possible for them to leave and still have somewhere to sleep at night.

Okay, that's not charity. I quite literally saw some dude on threads say, "Well, that's charity. Why would I want my money going there?" Okay, fuck that No, that is prevention. The second is giving every woman information about safety and support services before she has to decide whether to disclose anything, right? So that includes at the doctor, at the OB, at the dentist, like not waiting for her to say the words because a lot of women have been so conditioned or just even primarily out of fear, they never will.

We should count what we're trying to stop. Italy and Mexico have femicide in their law. We don't even have a category here in the United States for this. You can't fix what you actively refuse to measure. And call it what it is, too. Rape is rape. Okay? Not unwanted sexual contact, not an incident, not a domestic. The words we use decide what gets counted and what gets counted is what gets funded. Now, I wanted to talk more about, you know, lesbian spaces and stuff like that.

And I know with the current political climate and social climate right now and every I feel like everyone screams transphobia all the time over everything now, but when I mentioned the RN and the nurse and how she said that the woman was you know raped and you know mentioned the word vagina and then everyone just rammed down her throat, don't call it a vagina, call it unwanted sexual contact. That was because apparently now us saying that we are raped is transphobic or saying vagina is transphobic.

So that's where that comment came from earlier. Say the word rape. All right. We're not going to dumb it down to unwanted sexual contact or something small. Call it what it is. It is rape. Now, we should also fund what works. Test the rape kits. Fund the shelters. Staff the hotlines. Fund the DNA labs and the cold case units. Because I mean, you just heard how many of these men were finally caught by evidence that just sat on shelves for decades.

If a politician wants to stand at a podium and say, "I'm protecting women." Ask him what he funded. You know, check into your city and see what the backlog is. There are some cities, y'all, that have hundreds and hundreds and hundreds of rape kits just on a shelf collecting dust. The United Nations 16 days of activism against gender-based violence starts on November 25th and runs through December 10th. And this year's theme is about ensuring justice also protecting survivors and ending impunity.

And part of the push of this is reversing the global funding cuts to survivor services because that's what is currently happening. Find a local shelter or rape crisis center and give them something. Money, time, professional skills, you know, that all counts. Blankets, anything that you can donate, they will take all of those things. And then the platforms, y'all, and these fuckers they know who the salesmen are, right? They know what the algorithm feeds a 14-year-old boy, you know, within a week of opening the app.

Have you guys ever gone on to Facebook or Twitter, any any social media platform, and looked at your algorithm? Like the information that they've collected on you. It is absolutely wild. I actually was at Instagram earlier today and I was able to take a look at, you know, what the shit that has collected on me and it was like music, Circa Survive, Anthony Green, German shorthair pointers, like everything that I'm into. Instagram has well has a fine oil machine, you know, like when they want to stop it, they can.

And some of them have, okay, like some of them have. Make them do it. And for parents and teachers, guys, media literacy is violence for pre prevention. Now, let let us be so for real. Teach kids to ask who's making money off of what they are watching. All right? Again, let me say that, you know, out loud for those in the back. Teach kids to ask who is making money off of what they are watching. Explain how income works online. Explain how, you know, so many views and engagements and if they hit ads that makes money and that whatever creator gets, you know, a portion of that.

Explain that process to them. Teach them that a man who tells you that women are the reason your life sucks is selling you something. Explain how that something is anger and that anger has a monthly subscription, you know, fee to their platform and they're making money off of it. And to close, guys, just one final thing here, okay? And I'm being completely honest. I don't actually want to hate men, right? Hate is heavy. It's expensive. It costs me things I care about, including some of the men in my life who absolutely do not deserve it and whom I absolutely love and adore.

That I'm not going to apologize for the exhaustion. I'm not going to apologize for knowing the statistics, reading the studies, all of these verified numbers. And I'm not going to apologize for saying out loud what that record and what that data already says. Men, the vast majority of you are not the problem, but you are the only ones who can actually fix it. All right? Because women can't talk men out of this. We have been trying to do this for a very fucking long time.

Prove me wrong. I would absolutely love to be wrong.

CLOSING

That's the episode, y'all. Thank you so much for listening. I know this is a little outside of the lane, but I just I literally almost had an angry meltdown earlier after I read that show. And then, of course, I got to researching and got to writing an episode. So, all of the sources are in the show notes. If anything in this episode hits close to home, you know me, I love dropping resources. National Domestic Violence Hotline is 1-800-799-7233. You can also text start to 88788.

Rape, Abuse & Incest National Network, or RAINN, is 1-800-656-4673. And if you're in active crisis, you can call or text 988. So again, the Mica Miller series continues on Friday. Matthew Farwell trial coverage continues tomorrow. Gonna pick up and cover yesterday or yesterday Monday and Tuesday of this week. And as always, you can find me at wesawthedevil.com. Twitter is at we saw the devil. TikTok is we saw the devil true crime. Instagram is we saw the devil podcast. And my personal, which is where I'm primarily at is robin_wstd.

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But take care of each other, everyone. Until next time.

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